Thursday, October 20, 2011

smokers cause fires

The Argus has this story today which is confusing me



Specifically this section of the story
It took firefighters 45 minutes to find the cause of the blaze - a cigarette thrown from a top floor window which had wedged in brickwork.
I've thrown many fag ends at bins, drains, walls, floors, cars, railings, drainpipes and not once, ever, never ever have I managed to wedge a burning end into brickwork. Not once. Has anyone?

Even if I had I would hope that the bricks would be a little bit more fire resistant than the implication from this piece. In fact I may well set up my own experiment at home today to test the theory ......

3 comments:

Bill said...

I think this one is a false flag operation to be honest.
Either that or it saves the Fire service from the expense of finding the true cause of the fire. They're a bit strapped these days, allegedly.

A false flag to hide penny pinching would be my final analysis.

If all else fails blame a fag.

Anonymous said...

I think it's more likely to be something to do with the introduction of FSC cigarettes.

Because readymade cigarettes contain burning agents, instead of removing them so the cigarette goes out if unsmoked, they are altering the design of the cigarette.

London Fire Brigade supports life saving cigarette law

"Following a London Fire Brigade campaign, the European Commission has agreed a ‘fire safer standard’ on all cigarettes sold in the European Union (EU).

This means by November next year all cigarettes must be manufactured to have bands down the length of the paper. These will make the cigarette go out if it is not inhaled by the smoker."

"Chairman of London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority’s Community Safety Committee Cllr Susan Hall said: “We have campaigned long and hard for this legislation to be introduced and now it has, it will undoubtedly save lives"
fire-magazine

I hate to question the Fire Brigade but this intention was announced by the EU in 2008

European Union Pushes for Self-Extinguishing Cigarettes

"Smoking bans aren't the only thing on the EU's cigarette agenda. The bloc wants to see the tobacco industry develop products that go out if they're not being smoked -- it's not at all a new idea."

"A spokesman for the EU Standardization Commission also told reporters he thought that "fire-safe" cigs could be made mandatory by the year 2011."
dw-world.de

Apparently they taste absolutely horrible and make people ill, so it's important to persuade everyone that this new move is essential to save lives.

Interestingly,

Position Paper on Reduced Ignition Propensity (RIP) Cigarettes

"The report also made it clear that in their tests it was not possible to set fire to furniture
bought on the UK market with either cigarettes or matches, because by law it must resist
ignition from both sources."

"In summary, cigarette-initiated fires would no doubt be reduced by the introduction of RIP cigarettes either by mandatory or voluntary means and this is to be welcomed.
However, the contribution of RIP cigarettes to the reduction of European fire deaths and injuries in the home would be less significant in the context of the overall domestic fire safety problem because cigarettes are not the ignition source in most domestic killer fires today."
The Alliance For Consumer Fire Safety in Europe


Rose

I'll post the links if you want them, I just didn't want this post to get caught up.

Anonymous said...

Like the M1 fire was initially reported as being caused by a cigarette blown across the hard shoulder of a flyover and down into the scrapyard below.


Spark that shut the M1: Cigarette thrown from passing car may have set off blaze

"A single cigarette tossed from an open car window may have started the inferno that shut the M1, causing travel mayhem and costing the economy millions.

Much of the motorway was still closed yesterday as the Highways Agency came under renewed attack for not repairing the damage more quickly.

The full six lanes will not reopen before the end of next week, meaning thousands of families will face Easter travel chaos."
Daily Mail 19th April

later

27th April
Five teenage boys arrested over M1 scrapyard fire
BBC

I think we can probably expect more of these stories as the date that FSC becomes mandatory approaches.

Rose