
Vivienne Nathanson has published a piece on
CiF that encourages the desire within me for a very stiff drink. It's either that or my blood will boil.
The World Health Organisation has recognised that alcohol is a major cause of ill-health worldwide and that action on alcohol must fall into three areas: affordability, availability and promotion.
Action on alcohol
MUST fall into three areas? Really? The prohibition experiment in America tried to stifle availability and that failed, the Swedish model of taxing alcohol to extreme levels means that it has a thriving black market, and banning advertising didn't noticeably reduce tobacco sales. Maybe the WHO should stop trying to justify the massive cost burden it places on countries
The sad truth is that many drinkers have no idea how much they are drinking, or the harm it is doing.
I would suggest otherwise. Most drinkers know precisely how much they are drinking but the measuring system they use is not the one that you would have them adopt. How many is 'many'? I think that if you are proposing major changes to our lifestyles I'd like you to be a little more precise
Still fewer have any idea that alcohol is a poison that kills, as well as causing chronic liver and other organ damage.
So not very many people know that alcohol can kill in excess? Surely that's an education issue not a taxation issue? How will raising the price increase levels of education?
Drinking at levels that will harm health or lead to premature death occurs in all social classes and all age groups, but the health harms are disproportionately felt by the poorest in our communities.
I cannot better the response to that from one of the CiF commenters
who says
All alcohol packs – cans and bottles – must by law be labelled with easy to read information about the number of units within them, the safe drinking levels and a warning message about not exceeding these levels.
Why? Genuinely, why? If someone is going out to get drunk they won't give a shit about your warnings. The only people who'll pay any attention are sanctimonious types who metaphorically beat themselves up over every action they take.
licensing legislation should be strictly enforced
Existing legislation covers all the bases already and we don't need any new laws. Although is it just me or has there been an increase in problematic behaviour since the laws were tightened and more strictly enforced? Maybe if we relaxed them a little ..... ah hell who am I trying to kid? You'd never go for it even if it was proven to work
we must reduce the availability of alcohol by reducing the number of places selling it.
Ah well, your chums over at ASH have made a cracking good start on the pubs with their smoking ban haven't they? Is this what this is? Professional jealousy?
What we need is a joined-up and comprehensive alcohol strategy. This includes dealing with drink-driving laws
we have those already ....
The government must stop ignoring the advice from Peter North and lower the drink-driving limit, and legislate to allow the police to do random roadside testing.
Silly me, you want more Draconian laws rigidly enforced
The good news for government is that we have two alcohol strategies available from the last decade. Action must deal with the problem areas, including pricing
Yes I agree. The price of a pint in a pub has become extortionate ....
and it must have teeth – industry must be in no doubt about the willingness of government to regulate and legislate.
The ones that loved to regulate everything were the ones with the red ties on, we have the Coagulation now who are so different from.....
Independent expert monitoring and evaluation should be built in to make sure we are meeting targets such as a year-on-year real reduction in the numbers who drink excessively.
And who would they be? Your colleague Sir Ian "
probably" Gilmore? His comments last month were hardly certain were they. I might even go as far as saying they were just a little bit misleading
If supermarkets can find large sums of money to fund alcohol education, fine. But that money should go to charities who know what they are doing and are wholly independent of industry, such as the Institute of Alcohol Studies and Alcohol Concern who should then commission, and evaluate, the education.
And there it is, then, the point of this piece. A call for funds for your friend
Denser Honk and his fake charity. I wonder if you discussed this at your closed meetings (paid for in majority directly from tax revenues)
We should start to legislate today and use voluntary agreements to get action while the process of legislating is under way
Isn't that what is being proposed? I thought you didn't agree with the voluntary agreements to start the process which is why you refused to sign up? It's what you said at the beginning of your article. Make your mind up!
Anything else and we condemn more people to unnecessary deaths,
Ah, you see, no
we don't. People who choose to drink heavily do just that - they choose. We don't force them, coerce them, compel them. They do it to themselves. Now it could be argued that the effects of those drinkers are experienced by others and that is true, but it is the fault, the responsibility of the drinkers and not society at large.
Often when help is offered to those for whom alcohol is a problem (I've known a small number who fell into that category) they do not take it, do not change, do not alter their destructive patterns. If anything the intervention prolongs their misery.